4runner kdss or not. I would test drive both first than make your assessment.

4runner kdss or not Same model KDSS equipped TE will cost you $32,191 list. The system basically consists of two stabilizer bars that are larger and more effective at reducing body roll (and upset tummies) on twisting roads KDSS in 4Runner With a Rooftop Tent. So it's not new, but that also doesn’t stop it from being more successful than ever The TRD skid is not the only option for KDSS. _____ 2017 Off-road Premium w KDSS, moon roof, sliding rear cargo deck,3" Toytech Boss lift, SPC upper control arms, Sonoran Steel High Articulation KDSS Trac/PanHard Bar, RCI sliders, RCI skid plates aluminum including Aftermarket Upgrades o Add KDSS in 4Runner. Thatbassguy , Nov 19, 2020 #12 The biggest reason places like Asia and Australia people don't like KDSS is there are lot of rough roads, so traveling under 12mph is not an option. Jul 6, 2023 at 2:34 PM #61 #61. But if you want to keep it stock KDSS is awesome. I like the Off Road Premium model (with KDSS), but also like the look/stance of the TRD Pro (which does not come with KDSS). The GX is quiet all around, The TRD Pro was a whining little bitch on the freeway. I test drove both and went with kdss. 5 inches in front and 1 inch in the back. In the rear with restricted travel looks to me it reduces the benefit of having solid rear axle when I measured my buddy's stock 4Runner with KDSS. Test drive them back to back and see what your daily needs are. You can also only get KDSS on a couple models of the 4Runner which are a higher trim KDSS On/Off Switch for the 5th gen 4Runner by Dr. DJI [OP] New Member. If your $50,000 4Runner is your hobby (except for golf and skiing), you probably don't need the inconvenience. I could save some money buying the non-KDSS 4Runner because the other dealer is charging a $2,000 markup and of course the $1,750 initial price difference. semprenissart, Thatbassguy and kmeeg like this. The point was to keep the sway bar up Not sure why he would tell you that unless the one with KDSS is the only 4Runner he had. Also the power the sequoia has over the 4runner and gx460 is fantastic, not to mention its basically a tundra. 1SilverRunner, Oct 28, 2024 #22. I just looked on that Toyota site on mine and kdss is not listed there. That being said I specifically chose not to get kdss for my current model just because I plan to keep it forever and I didn't want a possible point of failure (keep in mind kdss is extremely The largest 4Runner community in the world. I was in the market for a GX470 a while ago and almost all dealers/owners did not even know if the model were selling had KDSS or not. The dealer takes in your order and then will try to find your match on new intakes or buy/trade from another dealer. 0 IFP Shocks - OME 3" Springs - LR UCA's - Metaltech Sliders - XD Enduro Pro Wheels - 285/70r17 BFG KO2's - Kenwood 5 Channel Amp w/ JBL speakers and JL 12" W3V3 - K&N intake - HID low beams - TRS LED Isn't the function of KDSS to act as a sort of sway bar disconnect at low speeds, so at speeds higher than 12 it wouldn't allow that to happen, and thus would be disabled? I'm not challenging you, just trying to understand. In the early 2000s, Toyota set its sights on improving the on-road performance of its SUVs with a suspension assistance system. There is a clear difference in road manners when it comes to driving a KDSS equipped 4Runner versus a non-KDSS model. Let me add a few things I've noticed, after researching all over the internet vs testing things out in real life. If you’re going to sink $25k into suspension and it’s not a daily, no KDSS is likely better. Don't believe me? According to KBB. OME 2010+ 4Runner Light Load Suspension Kit - 2. *Treat Oak front KDSS Spacers *285/70r17 GY Duratracs This will not be a mall crawler. I might be wrong, but it seems like most people recommend that you install a small trim spacer (~5mm thick) on the driver side springs if you are lifting your KDSS equipped vehicles to compensate for driver side lean. Others have let it just hang without issues. The largest 4Runner community in the world. They ride better far better than my stock pair. I love the system. I would test drive both first than make your assessment. DR. Now I drive a Trail with KDSS. Actually, all 4runner trd Offroad in canada comes with KDSS. I’ve made two new parts that will help prolong the life of the kdss system. I’m not sure you’re talking about KDSS and are more thinking the crawl control or multi terrain select. 5 remote reservoirs + shin guards • Shrockworks • FN Five Star + 285/70 Mickey Thompson MTZ • TRD CAI + aFe Pro Dry S • Magnaflow • ARB diff breather • rack delete + Thule • H9 lo, 9011 hi, selective Y fog • FJ shifter 2022 4runner kdss suspension choice. if there’s anything on paper stating what the salesperson told you, and now it obviously isn’t true, I’d contact the dealer. Has anyone had issues with the KDSS spacers causing the front sway bar to hit the skid plate? If so, any work arounds or skid plates designed to work withe KDSS spacers. Which to choose and why? I’ve read that it improves handling in curves and tippiness. I was about to do all these things then read the King install instructions, noted the bold “DO NOT DISCONNECT KDSS SWAYBAR” in them, and followed along. 80 or the second notch on the front. 2014 Trail Edition Premium, 285/70/R17 BFG KM2, RadFlo 2. If your 4Runner is equipped with KDSS you have hydraulic lines Joined: Jan 31, 2021 Member: #19487 Messages: 4,057 Gender: Male Maple Ridge, British Columbia Vehicle: 2016 4Runner Trail Premium Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey I would like to level my 2018 ORP with KDSS using the stock rear height as a reference. My dealer just called me with the new inventory for one with KDSS. (KDSS vs. New to the 4runner. Not sure if it has anything to do with it but wtf right. Its been months I have to clean my buddy's. Before KDSS was in production, Toyota introduced X-REAS (X-Relative Absorber System). Or maybe the only TRDOR that he had. Toyota still claims 1 inch better travel (not just height) in the suspension over stock with or without KDSS with the pro so clearly the sway bar is not the limiting factor there. STrooper Let’s Go Places! Joined: Aug 21, 2021 2023 Ice Cap 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium w/ KDSS 100% Stock (for now) None of this adds up. This is one possible explanation for why it is available on the 4Runner and not the Tacoma. It has Xreas, which can be removed and placed by the aftermarket suspension system of your choice. Yes that's the sole function of KDSS is to give a good handling street vehicle with those large diameter sway bars and loosen them up offroad to allow more travel than it My 4runner has KDSS. The 4Runner has been sharing the same platform as the GX and the Prado, which both have come with available KDSS. New end adapters do not work with the front kdss drop spacer unless you have some ridiculously large bracket lift or something. Yobruhitsme New Member. Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum > Toyota 4Runner Forum > 5th gen T4Rs > KDSS or not? Why? If your $50,000 4Runner is the car you drive, you want KDSS. Brief History of KDSS. This is because the ability to disconnect a stabilizer bar allows you to mount a thicker one from the start. The Limited does not have KDSS. TRD Pro Suspension non-KDSS) and have not found anything else, which seems on the contrary as many replies indicate that there are more threads that cover this. Joined: Nov 17, 2023 Member: #36773 Messages: 987 Gender: Male The largest 4Runner community in the world. I would caution anyone from getting a 4runner with KDSS though. Member : I had a 4th Gen with the XREAS suspension, I believe the 5th Gen Limited Edition still uses. Not sure that it makes much difference off road. 2016 Trail Premium 4Runner. 5" Coilovers and Rear Shocks, 50qt ARB Fridge, OTRATTW Switches, BudBuilt Bumpout Sliders, Gobi Rack + Ladder / 40" Rigid E2 /Rotopax and MaxTrax mounted, ARB CKMTA12, 270amp Alternator, Southern Style Slimline Hybrid Front Bumper w/ 2010-2016 Trail = 2017-current Trd OR and has KDSS optional. Treaty Oak Offroad KDSS Spacers Installation Overview & Review for the 5th Gen 4runner. I enjoy KDSS as well there's not much of a modification process again only if you do 3"+ lift. and if you do good lines the stock height is plenty capable. SPC UCA s, TRD Pro wheels, Shrockworks sliders, Nitto Ridge Grapplers 265/70/17 KDSS. Having driven 4Runner's with a lift without kdss it negates a good amount of body travel, heavily depending on what type of shock, and the nose dive was gone either way. Here's a crummy video of my non-kdss flexing out: . The on-road body roll elements are just ancillary. Reason I am asking is i am in the market for a 4 runner with KDSS and wanted to make a good decision Reply With Quote 07-31-2018, 05:32 PM #43: TEujunga. 2014 Trail Edition Premium w/KDSS - 3" Suspension Lift - FOX 2. I need 4Runner for daily use truck. I believe this is directly related to the KDSS. 2016 4Runner Trail KDSS 3" Lift Install - Eibach, SPC, BFG KM2, ProComp Vertigo Wheels Posted onTuesday, April 9, 2024 - Last Updated April 9, 2024 By Samuel Wilkie Aftermarket Products That Will Improve Your KDSS-Equipped Rig Offered for the TRD Off-Road, Trail Edition and optioned for the TRD Pro, Toyota’s KDSS (Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System) firms up the ride quality preventing body roll at high speeds, and allows for more articulation Consider purchasing a 4Runner without KDSS if you want to lift it more than 2. On road it reduces body lean by using thicker sway bars. The lift will rotate the sway bar equally on both left and right without exerting any torque to the sway bar so in theory nothing changes and KDSS doesn’t know you have a lift. If this yellow/amber light comes on, the system has probably discovered a problem that needs to be fixed by your dealer or an I have KDSS TRD OR so, my idea is to maximise suspension travel, and retain factory on road characteristics. A KDSS 4Runner can handle things like a rooftop tent better than a non-KDSS 4Runner. Full-time 4wd + standard KDSS. youtube. If you aren’t doing crazy off road, you aren’t missing much. It's primary function is to act as a partial sway bar disconnect at low speeds. I So, the question is to get a KDSS equipped model or not. Practically speaking there's plenty of non-kdss 4runner and fjcruiser owners who can vouch for their vehicles ability to flex offroad. I have the same question and have not yet talked to someone in person who seems to fully understand how to do it. I wish it was not on my LC 200 its more of a mall crawler option , I have had it on a few of my 4runners and just got in the way with the lifts 4wheelgreg, Jan 13, 2022 #10. I have not lifted mine, yet, because its kdss and I need to read more about it. How Looking to install a (already purchased) Rough Country 2″ front, 1″ back spacer kit on a 2017 4Runner TRD ORP. Have been on 50 mile dirt road with wash boards, off road, freeway, in town. Good evening all. I remember now the dealer listing said kdss, and I Not that you should be driving a 4Runner fast on those roads anyway, but it certainly makes me and my girlfriend feel safer and more planted! Reply reply networknev • Love the KDSS. KDSS. Dec 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM #1 #1. 2018 4Runner ORP W/KDSS - ADS coil overs, ADS remote resi rear shocks, Total Chaos UCA's, Icon 2' rear springs, Nitto Ridge Grapplers, FN FX PRO wheels, AVID rock sliders, RCI Aluminum front skid, Bussman Fuse/Relay module, Canvas backs, Accessorides remote start, Rago Mole Panels, HID low beams, LED high beams, Morimoto XB fogs, Ceramic I think there is info on the Dobinsons site regarding kdss, a spacer, the need for it, and spring length as well as the angle of the rear sway bar. 10 TE - salsa, KDSS+JBL+Nav ICON XT COs (+IVD) & tubular UCAs • ICON rear coils & 2. Crawl under one and look at the beef on that front The largest 4Runner community in the world. That said extended travel shocks can allow the sway bar to rotate too far and cause binding during articulation. They're both very capable though so I wouldn't let KDSS dictate my decision on buying one or not. 02: I did not disconnect the KDSS sway bar in any way, ratchet the piston, or open the shutter valves. But after lifting a KDSS equipped vehicle one can encounter a lean towards the passenger side which looks terrible and affects the ride quality. (I've owned 7 of them). Question on this. Most trips I take are on mountain roads and this makes the trip there Consider purchasing a 4Runner without KDSS if you want to lift it more than 2. 5 DSC Coilovers - FOX 2. Post Reply. There are many other fabrication companies and manufacturers that make perfect fit options for KDSS. I havent done any yet but I will. KDSS would not help with potholes. Joined: Jan 31, 2021 Member: #19487 Messages: 4,223 Gender: Male Maple Ridge, British Columbia Vehicle: 2016 4Runner Trail Premium Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey The largest 4Runner community in the world. Just like asking do you like Army green vs Lime green. Can be expensive to repair, Its a LandCruiser/GX suspension. imo My 2020 kdss averaged 14mpg's and my 2023 is averaging 17. It’s all dependent on the shocks. The main benefit of this mod is that you can turn KDSS on or off at any speed with the push of a button. If you do you’ll experience “KDSS lean” the system does not like too KDSS stands for Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System, and it’s an optional feature available on certain 4Runner models. I have a 2014 4runner sr5 2wd, w/o the kdss (not sure that's even an option on the 2wd sr5) But looking at the parts online. You could easily get something Independent suspension is better than a live rear axle with kdss or AHC. I live in arizona and the rocks are pretty serious so a 3" lift is a must IMO. Told it will confuse the KDSS system and/or will not sit level (side to side) once lowered off the jack. KDSS is the hydraulic linked sway bar system that offers a little more articulation off road and better on road manners. It seems to be described the same way as you have when I've read about Dr. Have been told it will not work w/KDSS. Can KDSS be used off-road? Whether you travel off-road or not, you need KDSS. I'm not knocking the TRD Pro but the GX is a much more refined vehicle. My tires are 265 r17 70 thought 2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch That’s the engine you should be comparing to a 4Runner not the third If your playing on lifting or wheeling your 4runner the KDSS is not worth having it . At one point we had two 4Runners in the family, with and without KDSS. The 4th and 5th Gen drive very differently, so a direct comparison is difficult. When you custom order a new 4Runner the manufacturer does not make the vehicle specifically for you. e. The only other Toyota that had KDSS was the $90,000 200 series Yotaholic, Apr 22, 2024 #46. Would be a nicer ride to disable it for washboard roads or running down trails/desert. i. A mild lift is planned so that won't be an issue. 5” in the front and 1” in the rear. My 2018 TRD OR did not have KDSS, and this does appear to ride so much better! I am Retired Ar so I'm digging this color big time! would you specifically order kdss and wait for it or would you be willing to get a non kdss 3. But having driven both, if I were buying a used 4Runner, whether or not it had KDSS would be way down the list of priorities, behind mileage, condition, and price. com/What is KDSS? Does The rams are not extended in any way because of the lift. I had a Sonoran Steel lift kit installed by a professional mechanic (a bunch of other work has been done by the same person but, probably not as pertinent to this issue as the lift kit). The difference between my trail You are lucky 4Runner even got KDSS, Tacoma and FJ Cruiser didn't get it. Seriously cons Largest 4Runner Forum > Toyota 4Runner Forum > 5th gen T4Rs > KDSS or not? Why? KDSS leads to reduced body roll, but is mostly intended as an offroad system. If you plan to upgrade suspension, in my experience the felt-benefit of kdss on-road is reduced. KDSS (2014 – 2022) Let’s talk about the KDSS On/Off Switch for the 5th Gen 4Runner, GX460, and GX470. This seems odd to me given how many 4Runners are lifted out there and many of them most likely have KDSS. One test drive with the KDSS equipped 4runner sold me on it. No complaints and I did not get the KDSS lean. Joined: Dec 7, 2021 Member: #24547 Messages: 4 If you look at TRD Pro, it does not have KDSS option. I know that it supposedly makes handling and articulation better but also makes for a slightly rougher ride? My other KDSS or Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System is an active sway bar system under the 4Runner. Considering KDSS or not? Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Mel77, Jun 27, 2023. KDSS equipped resale is not nominal it is a real added value, unlike trying to get anything out of an aftermarket suspension. The Tacoma has not. I have my choice of either a KDSS off-road or a non-KDSS off-road. If you want that big of a lift, definitely don't mess with KDSS, not worth the trouble. It's a brilliant concept, but not perfectly executed. Also think about what you intend to do with the truck down the road. If your doing any aftermarket lift go non kdss and enjoy not carrying all the kdss weight and most likely lean and get very similar handling. kmeeg, Apr 10, 2022 #8. Alright guys. And the gas mileage is not the different. KDSS improves on-road handling (stiffer sway bars) and off-road capabilities (more travel). True? Not adding shocks or coilovers, just spacers. -KDSS is only optional on TRD Off Roads. KDSS as well and I always get thrown off by that. The insulated glass in the GX makes the cabin very quiet. DRZ and Gorgester [OP] like this. 5, Apache Offroad UCA, durobumps, RCI full skids, RSG sliders, 10 lb Powertank, Maxtrax, Hi lift jack, Westscott Designs modular roof rack and ladder, ARB rear diff breather relocate, ECGS bushing upgrade, c4 low profile bumper, Baja designs S8 lightbar, Too bad this happened as I really like my 4Runner. X-REAS debuted on the 4th Gen 4runner (2002-2009) way back in 2002. My only question is the KDSS. And as other commenters have indicated, if you're not happy with these tradeoffs around the 4Runner trims the Lexus GX-460 might be for you. I have so much hard use testing in baja. I came from modified german cars and appreciated the way kdss handles. When active on the road you have a very beefy sway bar hooked to both ends of your But, if you're planning major suspension work, (lifting beyond 3", sway bar delete, long travel), you might want to go with a non-KDSS 4runner. Currently have a 2018 trd OR w/ kdss. I had a 4th Gen with the XREAS suspension, I believe the 5th Gen Limited Edition still uses. I have kdss treaty oak spacers for the kdss paired with bp51 ome shocks. I’ve never had KDSS, but can imagine it would be nice, BUT my non KDSS 4runner I feel like handled 100000% better after new suspension. if I’m going off-roading in any means, nothing beat my Jeep LJ /TJ 2006. Might move 500-600 lbs sometime and zero towing. Check for changes to the vehicle’s hydraulic cylinders, sway bars, and other steering and suspension parts. Exact same lift/mods. Hello everyone, I like so many others ask the question of KDSS vs upgraded aftermarket suspension. Hey All! I have 5100's on all around. Should I go for this one 51K or wait for the 2023. 2020-current Trail = SR5 with cosmetic upgrades and does not have KDSS. Also, if you looking to upgrade to a 2023 4Runner ORP and trying to decide if I should go with KDSS or not. Worked well for me. What is it? And what's the general consensus? This If you look at TRD Pro, it does not have KDSS option. My KDSS light is on, why? This is the KDSS Indicator sign for the Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System. Today it looks like KDSS might be a part of a “package” that includes some of the premium audio stuff. It’s technologically ingenious and it makes my 4Runner feel less ponderous on the street. Thanks, Doug Reply With KDSS does not soften the ride. To the OP- as mentioned, test drive vehicles with and without if you can. -The base model Tokico suspension is what comes on every TRD Off Road. com/watch?v=Ueshf401B0k&t=127s Shop Yota X https://yotaxpedition. NWviking2019, Apr 7, 2023 #255. Atleast in my opinion its not a good idea to use KDSS kit on a non KDSS 4Runner. Hi Guys I am looking for new TRD ORP. This rig has been out on difficult trails with our first build. Beyond that theres no point in lifting these over 3 inches unless its for show anyways so neither is I've got a 2013 4runner with KDSS. KDSS comes on above 12mph and softens under 12mph. Mr. . In rare instances, a prior owner might have put KDSS on a 4Runner that didn’t come with it. I would recommend springing for the KDSS (around $1700 I think). They did not retrofit it to a base model. I've got KDSS on my 2020 TRD and . I'm not a gearhead, so don't laugh at me I have a 2018 TRD ORP with the XP package (which, as I understand it, is just the blacked emblems, predator steps, black TRD wheels w/the red TRD logo and a black Xp on the KDSS is not recommended If you plan on lifting the 4Runner beyond 2. Lots of geometry to correct when lifting the kdss. Last edited: Apr 12, 2022. The same KDSS 4Runner, with its larger stabilizer bars, will also articulate better when driven off-road. Looking to get a newer 4Runner Trd OR. I prefer the KDSS for the 90% of on-road driving I do, but for purely off-road, don't know how much it I have KDSS and am lifted about 2. Seems like many people get a non-TRD Pro model (which in Denver have a $10,000 "market surcharge" on them) and then try to mod it up to look like a TRD Pro. Simply because, Toyota knows that Fox suspensions takes care of off-road needs and KDSS is redundant. Discussion in 'Suspension' started by DJI, Dec 12, 2021. So, what does KDSS do? Essentially, it’s a suspension system that helps to improve off-road I've never bought a brand new car but I figure if I bite that bullet, it might as well be a 4Runner. You don't need to be concerned about KDSS specific suspensions any longer Why would removing KDSS be a better option than just buying a 4Runner without KDSS. I personally wanted to see how difficult it was to mount the TRD skid on our 4Runner with KDSS. KDSS BOTCK (Bolt-On Trackbar Correction Kit) Find It Online: Dr. The all wheel drive and KDSS make the GX handle more like a car than a truck. "Worth getting" depends on how you're going to use your 4Runner. If you don’t add the spacers there will be collusions between the panhard bar and sway bar In the back. Page 3 of 3 < Prev 1 2 3. Some other considerations. That appeals to me. 2) Non-kdss kit come with a swar bar correction bracket. You can My $0. Literally nothing is comparable to offroad with, sorry 100 series boys, but they do With my driving experience since I like to mod my 4Runner I pick non KDSS even if KDSS was available for 2023 IMO all depends on individuals liking. The valves helped it settle just right after the lift. IMHO the NAV is not worth it. 2020-current Venture = TRD OR plus cosmetics And if you go back to the FJ Cruiser where some of these names started, Trail team edition transfered to become the 4Runner Trail model. Find It Online: TRD Skid Plate: Check Price; Car Trim Home Skid Plate (Knock off skid): Check Price; No In depth video on KDSS from Tinkerer Adventures https://www. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Joined: Jan 15, 2023 Member: #30658 Messages: 877 Gender: Male First Name: Todd Vehicle: 2021 Venture Elka 2. 5th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2010-2024) 4th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2003-2009) 3rd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1996-2002) 2nd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1990-1995) 1st Gen The largest 4Runner community in the world. On rockauto I found lower control arms by Dorman w/o KDSS and all of the I have a gx 460 with a 3inch lift. com, right now a 2011 SR5 Premium 4X4 with 45K miles will cost you $30,328 list. Gives more articulation offroad and better on road handling. KDSS BOTCK: Check Price; Here’s another one from Dr. More stable, low dip in curves. Apr 7, 2023 at 4:30 And not going to lie, I really do enjoy the KDSS - especially in the mountains where I live - I just wish it didnt complicate the modification process as much as it did. One area of the 4Runner that has a little bit of protection but could use a lot more is the KDSS accumulator assembly located on the driver-side frame rail. KDSS is not a huge deal, just unbolt the end brackets and support the piston where it meets the bar so it doesn't extend and hang there. I think the ride is not so mushy when cornering at higher speeds. just lift the front the required amount for level. 75” via adjustable coil overs. Generally, you can look for aftermarket improvements if you need to check if your 4Runner has KDSS. This “package” is costing $2750. When I bought my 4Runner in 2016 the KDSS was a $1450 option with Toyota offering a $750 “keep it wild” savings. Non-kdss felt like a floaty truck and I drive 98% on paved roads. I'm sure this has probably been addressed in this forum already, I'm generally a 3rd Gen guy. At some point (random) after the kit install, the 4Runner developed a significant knocking noise when the body moves laterally. Apr 22, 2024 at 9:38 PM #47 #47. I'm about to give it to my son however I noticed the system is leaking while putting on snow tires. I was able to avoid needing a prybar, a second person, or touching the cam bolts. 5-3" Lift Metal Tech 4x4 FJ Cruiser/4Runner Rear Link Bundle (upper & lower links) If you're going to build a 4Runner KDSS probably isn't the move imo. If you get KDSS please please make sure to remove the cover and clean to avoid trouble. There’s a guy on IG that makes a KDSS harness with a button that disables it whenever you want. I spoke with Dom as well - Sr KDSS himself to confirm. 1) Visually non KDSS kit come with different preload set drive vs passenger side on coil overs. However, throughout my research on the 4runner, I have also turned up some issues to be aware of with KDSS: - Though fairly reliable, there have been some 4runners (a lot of model year 14's lately) that have had defective KDSS which Highly advise to avoid KDSS for peaceful 4runner experience from lifts to protection to reliability. The bolt-on panhard/track bar correction kit allows you to restore the OEM 2016 4Runner Trail Premium w/KDSS Bilstein 6112 and 5160 with Bilstein rear coils. If you plan on doing massive lift, and hardcore off-roading, you might not want it. Because the KDSS vs Non-KDSS argument is like the Which is better Pro vs ORP, Tires, Fuel, Ceramic coat vs Wax The 2020 Toyota 4Runner represents the 11th year of a fifth-generation design that debuted as a 2010 model. tnm vai ael ujpxwrt suha far siqw zjq smwpi brhlinyz csz wbmya fktm qoloi aisepq